Our Rental Chrysler Town & Country – Family ReviewOctober 24, 2012
Kat & Our Rental Ride, a photo by tadnkat on Flickr.
We recently got back from a fairly epic trip to LA and Oregon — flying to LA, then taking the Amtrak Coast Starlight up to Oregon. We rented Chrysler vans in both locations – a Dodge Grand Caravan in LA, and its mechanical twin, the Chrysler Town & Country for our week in Oregon. We are recent minivan converts, having sold our beloved stickshift Subaru Outback so as to gain the sliding door and cavernous space offered by a minivan.
Now, the van we purchased for ourselves is a 2012 Honda Odyssey EX. Given that some of our friends are considering going the minivan route, I figured I’d offer my quick review comparing these Chrysler twins to our Honda.
- Engine: The Caravan and the Town & Country have Chrysler’s new Pentastar 3.6l V6, which at 286HP is theoretically the most powerful engine you can get in a minivan. However, it makes all of its power in the upper end of the rev range – so, unless you really stomp on the throttle, the vehicle can feel strained around town or on the freeway. Contrast this to the 248HP 3.5l V6 in the lighter Odyssey, which actually never feels strained, and regardless of numbers actually feels more powerful around town and in passing.
- Fuel Economy: I averaged 21 mpg in the Caravan in almost exclusively highway driving, and averaged 21.5 mpg in the Town & Country in about 80% highway driving. Contrast that to the Odyssey which averaged 25mpg on a mixed city/highway trip to Connecticut, and 27.5 mpg on a recent all-highway trip. Another salient feature is that the Odyssey has a fuel-saving, cylinder-deactivation mode (basically turning off 3 of the cylinders of the engine when you’re on part-throttle on the highway). This feature activates automatically without any input from you. So, as long as you’re careful on the throttle, it’ll kick in and save you gas. Contrast this to the Chrysler twins which require you to push an “ECO” button on the dash when you want to save gas. With the ECO mode active, it does manage to improve mileage, but at the same time makes throttle response lazy, and will also refuse to kick down gears when you’re going up a hill. So, I’d definitely give the advantage to the Odyssey.Update: I rented one of these vehicles again (a 2014 model, mechanically identical to the other Town & Country reviewed here) for a drive from DC to Knoxville, TN. I averaged 23.87mpg over the course of a full-tank driven exclusively on the interstate – well below the 25mpg EPA highway estimate, and again – trailing the Odyssey by a considerable margin — but at least still better than other 3-row crossovers out there.
- Seating Flexibility: Probably the best case for the Town & Country and the Grand Caravan are the nifty Stow & Go seats it has. The middle-row captains chairs can fold flat & completely disappear under the floor with a few quick pulls, which came in handy when my daughter insisted on only sitting in the 3rd row of seats, yet we wanted some room for bags & such in the middle. In the Odyssey, you can physically remove the middle seats or fold them forward, but they can’t do the nifty acrobatics of the Chryslers.
- Seating Comfort: The actual main reason we ended up getting our Odyssey over the Chrysler vans was the comfort level of the seats. The Odyssey has these fantastic thrones which are firm, supportive and extremely comfortable over long stretches. Both my wife and I loathe the front seats in the Grand Caravan, and found the Town & Country’s seats better but still mooshy and not nearly as comfortable as the Odyssey. Back seats are a similar story.
- Ergonomics: This is a mixed bag. The Chrysler twins have a nice uConnect touch-screen stereo which works well enough, Bluetooth audio streamed with no fuss as well (blasting Cars and The Lion King soundtrack from our phones is essential to surviving road trips). The HVAC system is a bit of an ergonomic disaster, being confusing to operate and sometimes giving one heat when one didn’t ask for it, etc. But overall it’s a personal-preference thing between the Odyssey and the Chrysler vans.
So, there you go. Our verdict basically was that we basically found the Grand Caravan merely passable as a rental conveyance whilst the Town & Country was actually not too bad – as long as you didn’t have an Odyssey to compare it to.
We took a 6,000 mile trip to the Four Corners in our new Town & Country in Sept/Oct and average 27 MPG with as high as 30. We considered a Honda but it was almost $10,000 more in Canada since Chrysler had some great sales. We are VERY pleased with the T&C and a friend who has an Odyssey is so impressed he is thinking of switching.
Wow – that’s definitely impressive mileage. Obviously the old “your mileage may vary” adage applies here. Our 2012 Odyssey gets peak mileage at about 65mph, where we can average right at 30mpg. At 70mph, it drops to about 27-28mpg, and at 75mph drops to 26mpg. Now that’s an Odyssey EX, which comes with the 5-speed auto. The Odyssey Touring has a 6-speed auto and gets better highway mileage, so those figures would be totally different on one of those.
But, like I said above, there were definitely things to like about the T&C and I can definitely see why folks would get one.
Hey, I saw your blog via a link to your mileage table on Autoblog; excellent work, and interesting read!
I, like Don above, found your mileage surprisingly low for these as well. I drove a 2014 loaded T&C several hundred miles and it was ready to achieve upwards of 30mpg (IIRC, the readout said 30.8-ish, but actual calculation was 29.9–I average it out to just above 30), which blew me away that vans can show numbers like that these days. Admittedly, this was mostly 2-lane highway with a 55mph limit, but I won’t say whether or not that turned in as my average speed. It’s an old design, so I’m not surprised if the mileage drops off at higher speeds. Otherwise, though, I think it has held up pretty well considering its fundamental design is a decade old now.
I’m also kind of surprised you compared the T&C unfavorably in the power department with the Odyssey as I found the case to be the opposite. The Odyssey had impressive performance for a van (I drove a 2013 for a couple days), but I thought the T&C was laughably quick for a minivan. Let’s just say I had a blast surprising people off the line, even soliciting a race from a kid in a V6 Eclipse who I’m sure never spoke of the incident to his friends. Was eco-mode enabled during your stint? I understand its primary function is to dull throttle response and to short-shift.
At any rate, keep up the good work. It’s great to see real-world mileage figures. The only additions that I’d like to see you add are date, ambient temperature, and wind (if any). I’ve noticed in my personal car that in the sub-freezing winter days on winter-blend fuel, I consistently get around 18% lower mileage on the highway versus 70F+ summer days.
Hey Leon – thanks for the great comment.
On mileage, the most relevant thing I think I can add to the conversation is that the route I took for all of the items on that mileage table is down the I-81 through the Blue Ridge mountains, at an average speed of 70-75mph. The undulating hills have proven difficult for a few of the I rented to maintain decent gas mileage, whilst others seemed to use them to their advantage.
Also, a number of the cars (the Fords I rented most notoriously) had gas mileage that dropped off precipitously as I went from 55mph in the metro areas, to 75mph on the Interstate. In fact, with the Explorers and the Fusions I rented, I was ONLY able to get an indicated gas mileage that approached the EPA estimate while I was driving 55.
To answer your question, I did have Eco mode engaged nearly the entire trip – and I did seem to average an indicated mileage of over the EPA estimate at 26’ish, but the actual mileage at the pump was just under 24mpg.